Monday, October 12, 2015
"A Living and Breathing World..." A blog and a master thesis! (not mine)
Corey Ryan Walden aka Rastus_Burne (New Zealand) is a young chap exploring old school gaming. The first link with his name is also his blog. He submitted a paper for his Masters Thesis back in July and reports that he received an "A". The title is
Thursday, October 8, 2015
Footprints #23 (DragonsFoot's free e-zine) is available for download:
Footprints #23 (DragonsFoot's free e-zine) is available for download:
Likewise, issue #22 (February) can be found here:
www.dragonsfoot.org/ft/index.shtml#392
The first 21 issues are also available over at DF.
Likewise, issue #22 (February) can be found here:
www.dragonsfoot.org/ft/index.shtml#392
The first 21 issues are also available over at DF.
Monday, October 5, 2015
The Long Detailed History of English Metaphor
If you are like me and into words and their use, their history and their sometimes very odd origins then you might be interested in these links.
News Articles:
Explore This Map of 13 Centuries' Worth of English Metaphors
Metaphor map charts the images that structure our thinking
Online Resource:
Mapping Metaphor - English and Old English
The Historical Thesaurus of English
Related blog:
Mapping Metaphor with the Historical Thesaurus
News Articles:
Explore This Map of 13 Centuries' Worth of English Metaphors
Metaphor map charts the images that structure our thinking
Online Resource:
Mapping Metaphor - English and Old English
The Historical Thesaurus of English
Related blog:
Mapping Metaphor with the Historical Thesaurus
Sunday, October 4, 2015
Dave Arneson (More About)
Here are a few links for more information about Dave Arneson. I particularly liked the insights in the library link where they talk about his literary insprirations.
Arneson's legacy in BECMI
Dave Arneson's library
Judge's Guild Thoughts & Dave Arneson Appreciation Day Homage
Arneson's legacy in BECMI
Dave Arneson's library
Judge's Guild Thoughts & Dave Arneson Appreciation Day Homage
Saturday, October 3, 2015
Dave Arneson Links to Information and to downloads
Here are more links to information about Dave Arneson and to the "Ultimate Fansite" which has some great downloads.
The Greatest Dungeon Masters in the World: Dave Arneson
Q&A with Greg Svenson -A Dave Arnerson player
The Blackmoor Archives - The Ultimate Blackmoor Fansite
Go to "The Blackmoor Archives" to access this menu Index
INDEX
Home - This Page
Forum Visit our Discussion Forum, the Comeback Inn!
The Blog - Get the Latest News on Blackmoor at Havard's Blackmoor Blog.
Articles - Articles about the Blackmoor Setting.
History of the creation and publication of Blackmoor, from Dave Arneson's Original Gaming group to the D20 line from Zeitgeist Games.
The Bestiary details the Monsters of Blackmoor under various editions of Dungeons & Dragons.
Rules for running Blackmoor under various RPG systems.
Gallery - The art of Blackmoor
Maps. Your guide to the geography of Blackmoor.
Downloads - Downloads for Blackmoor.
Dave Arneson's Blackmoor - the MMRPG. All about the Living Blackmoor Campaign. Get the Free Downloads while you can.
Blackmoor Campaigns
Downloads connected to Blackmoor, such as Mystara, Greyhawk, the Wilderlands and Others.
Get an overview of the Blackmoor fan community across the World Wide Web.
Links - Other websites with information about the Blackmoor Setting.
About About this site and the people behind it.
The Greatest Dungeon Masters in the World: Dave Arneson
Q&A with Greg Svenson -A Dave Arnerson player
The Blackmoor Archives - The Ultimate Blackmoor Fansite
Go to "The Blackmoor Archives" to access this menu Index
INDEX
Home - This Page
Forum Visit our Discussion Forum, the Comeback Inn!
The Blog - Get the Latest News on Blackmoor at Havard's Blackmoor Blog.
Articles - Articles about the Blackmoor Setting.
History of the creation and publication of Blackmoor, from Dave Arneson's Original Gaming group to the D20 line from Zeitgeist Games.
The Bestiary details the Monsters of Blackmoor under various editions of Dungeons & Dragons.
Rules for running Blackmoor under various RPG systems.
Gallery - The art of Blackmoor
Maps. Your guide to the geography of Blackmoor.
Downloads - Downloads for Blackmoor.
Dave Arneson's Blackmoor - the MMRPG. All about the Living Blackmoor Campaign. Get the Free Downloads while you can.
Blackmoor Campaigns
Downloads connected to Blackmoor, such as Mystara, Greyhawk, the Wilderlands and Others.
Get an overview of the Blackmoor fan community across the World Wide Web.
Links - Other websites with information about the Blackmoor Setting.
About About this site and the people behind it.
Friday, October 2, 2015
Dave Arneson - Quotes and Interview Links
Brilliant Arneson Quote of the Day
The Hobby and the Industry
RPG Founding Father Quotes (E. Gary Gygax, Dave Arneson, & M. A. R. Barker)
Interview with David Arneson by Ciro Allessandro Sacco
Dungeons & Dragons' Arneson: The Lost Interview
Dave Arneson Interview - GameSpy sits down with the co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons and talks with him about the game.
Thursday, October 1, 2015
The remarkble Dave Arneson - Creator of Blackmoor and Co-Creator of the original Dungeons & Dragons.
Just a few places to read about the remarkble Dave Arneson - Creator of Blackmoor and Co-Creator of the original Dungeons & Dragons. Here are a few links to explore - the next to the last is his official website and the last is his own website which is being maintained. Please check them out.
Remembering Dave Arneson
Dave Arneson
Blackmoor Castle - Official Website for Dave Arneson
Castle Blackmoor - The worlds of Dave Arneson
Blackmoor
Remembering Dave Arneson
Dave Arneson
Blackmoor Castle - Official Website for Dave Arneson
Castle Blackmoor - The worlds of Dave Arneson
Blackmoor
Wednesday, September 30, 2015
Happy Birthday - David Lance "Dave" Arneson (October 1, 1947 – April 7, 2009)
Today October 1st would be the 68th birthday of Dave Arneson if he were still with us and in a very real way he is still with us through Blackmoor, The First Fantasy Campaign and through the Original Dungeons and Dragons. His creations and creativity live on and bring joy to the hearts of all those who refuse to let someone else set limits on their imagination and creativity and who strive to expand their childlike sense of fun and wonder without limit into something new each day.
Based on all that I have read and heard of him I am confident that he would want all those who knew him, to celebrate his life and have some great fun today. He would want to be remembered with smiles and laughter. For those of us who were never fortunate enough to meet him and to play a game with him, we can be sure that sure that he would welcome us the same way he welcomed so many others as he shared the sheer joy of living and imagining with all those that he met.
Have some fun today - do something fun today with those you love in honor of Dave Arneson!
The Noblest RPGer of Them All
Happy Dave Arneson Day!
Dave Arneson Game Day 2015
Reflections on Dave Arneson
[News] Dave Arneson Game Day October 1st 2015
[News] Dave Arneson Game Day October 1st 2015 - Preparation
Dave Arneson Game Day 2015 and Blackmoor Week
Blackmoor Fans
The Last Fantasy Campaign
Happy Birthday Dave Arneson
Arneson Day
Dave Arneson Day 2015 Across the Web
Based on all that I have read and heard of him I am confident that he would want all those who knew him, to celebrate his life and have some great fun today. He would want to be remembered with smiles and laughter. For those of us who were never fortunate enough to meet him and to play a game with him, we can be sure that sure that he would welcome us the same way he welcomed so many others as he shared the sheer joy of living and imagining with all those that he met.
Have some fun today - do something fun today with those you love in honor of Dave Arneson!
The Noblest RPGer of Them All
Happy Dave Arneson Day!
Dave Arneson Game Day 2015
Reflections on Dave Arneson
[News] Dave Arneson Game Day October 1st 2015
[News] Dave Arneson Game Day October 1st 2015 - Preparation
Dave Arneson Game Day 2015 and Blackmoor Week
Blackmoor Fans
The Last Fantasy Campaign
Happy Birthday Dave Arneson
Arneson Day
Dave Arneson Day 2015 Across the Web
Monday, September 28, 2015
AFS Magazine Available at the Halls of Tizun Thane
Monday, September 21, 2015
Defining Old School Gaming - an Edition/Game Independent Definition (Before the Reviews)
Disclaimer: I am not saying this is the only definition or the
definitive definition. Everyone is welcome to their own definition. What
I am saying is that this definition goes back to the early days while
OD&D was being written and play tested and looks at two very
different games: Blackmoor and Greyhawk and based on the information
available to this writer defines what old school gaming is based on the things
that two very different games by two very different referees have in
common. It also looks at the things that to the best of my knowledge
Arneson and Gygax had in common over 30 years later. I also want to
point out that this definition of old school gaming would allow you to play an
old school game using any D&D Edition and any other rpg whose rules
do not directly conflict with this definition. This means that this
definition tells you specifically how you can play games that are
greatly different from OD&D in an old school gaming style/manner.
So take a look and tell me what you think. I have seen a lot of different definitions, but I think this one is unique in being truly both Edition Independent and Game independent. I have tried other definitions over the years, but they were tied to the game being played, this one starts with OD&D but then is extended to apply to any rpg game. I also believe that since under this definition you can use all kinds of game features that I do not like (such as skills and ascending armor class) and still have an old school game - because of this I think it is IMO the most unbiased definition to date since you can play your game in a way I don't like and I would still have to agree that you meet my definition of old school.
So here is the definition, part of it I derived myself and part of it I found in various places including on a non-old school focused forum.
Old school gaming is the way that Gary & Dave played in their own campaigns both before and after the initial publication of OD&D and throughout their lives. Some will point out that their games changed a lot over the years and that is true; however, that things I point to as defining old school gaming did not to the best of my knowledge change in their games.
In the beginning Old School Gaming was Original Dungeons & Dragons as played by Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson and it was played in a sandbox, involved both prep work and improvisation (i.e. winging it) and each campaign was each refs own creation. House ruling/adjudication was done on the fly as needed and slavish By the Book adherence to the rules did not exist (was never a consideration). The style of play was test the player not the character which means that metagaming (using all player knowledge) was part of the game and an expected part of play.
A pure sandbox is anything from just a village and the surroundings up to a fully top down designed world that is fully fleshed out.
So here we go for the definition:
So what is an Old School Game, any game that readily and easily lends itself to the Old School Gaming style as defined above. What is a non-old school game? Any game that does not readily and easily lend itself to the Old School Gaming style as defined above.
So take a look and tell me what you think. I have seen a lot of different definitions, but I think this one is unique in being truly both Edition Independent and Game independent. I have tried other definitions over the years, but they were tied to the game being played, this one starts with OD&D but then is extended to apply to any rpg game. I also believe that since under this definition you can use all kinds of game features that I do not like (such as skills and ascending armor class) and still have an old school game - because of this I think it is IMO the most unbiased definition to date since you can play your game in a way I don't like and I would still have to agree that you meet my definition of old school.
So here is the definition, part of it I derived myself and part of it I found in various places including on a non-old school focused forum.
Old school gaming is the way that Gary & Dave played in their own campaigns both before and after the initial publication of OD&D and throughout their lives. Some will point out that their games changed a lot over the years and that is true; however, that things I point to as defining old school gaming did not to the best of my knowledge change in their games.
In the beginning Old School Gaming was Original Dungeons & Dragons as played by Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson and it was played in a sandbox, involved both prep work and improvisation (i.e. winging it) and each campaign was each refs own creation. House ruling/adjudication was done on the fly as needed and slavish By the Book adherence to the rules did not exist (was never a consideration). The style of play was test the player not the character which means that metagaming (using all player knowledge) was part of the game and an expected part of play.
A pure sandbox is anything from just a village and the surroundings up to a fully top down designed world that is fully fleshed out.
So here we go for the definition:
Old School Gaming is a sandbox game that involves the full range of the extremes between referee pre-designed and referee improvised (winged) materials where everything in the game is the referees own creation created from any number of inspirations. The referee does house ruling/adjudication on the fly as needed throughout the game. There is no BtB adherence to a rule-set and the game is house ruled and rule changes take place over time. The game tests the player not the character. So called "metagaming" is an expected part of the game on the part of the players.This tells you how to play OD&D, any OSR game, 3.5E, Runequest, Gurps or any other game in an old school gaming style/manner. It does not tell you that you have to dump this or that rule(s). It is an open-ended definition that clearly defines a specific original play style and yet it is not about imitation since there is nothing in the definition that would require conformity between Blackmoor and Greyhawk or any other campaign to any greater degree than what actually existed. Gary Gygax reportedly like to play in Dave Arnesons game because of how differently Dave did things from the way Gary did things. And yet they both had the same things in common that defined them then and defines old school gaming now.
So what is an Old School Game, any game that readily and easily lends itself to the Old School Gaming style as defined above. What is a non-old school game? Any game that does not readily and easily lend itself to the Old School Gaming style as defined above.
Wednesday, September 16, 2015
Things to Remember About Retro-Clones
There are a number of things to remember about Retro-Clones. One is that they are based on the Open Game License (OGL) which refers to the System Reference Document (SRD) published by Wizards of the Coast in 2000, of which there are two versions - one based on 3rd Ed Dungeons & Dragons and one based on 3.5 Ed Dungeons & Dragons. This means for instance that when a writer wants to recreate the Original Dungeons and Dragons game as closely as legally possible there are a number of steps they have to take.
One of course is getting legal advice from an experienced copyright attorney to help them stay within the letter of the law.
A second is to go through the SRD and delete everything that is not present at all in OD&D.
A third step is take all the remaining material that is in OD&D in some form and simplify that information into your own words, but as close to OD&D as you can legally go. This is a time consuming and difficult step and is fraught with some peril in more than one way. OD&D is intentionally vague in some areas and has things that can be interpreted in more than one way. Unfortunately when writing your clone those passages are some of the most difficult to work with since you cannot just quote them. So do you use your preferred interpretation or list more than one interpretation or do you attempt to recreate the original indeterminacy with a different wording.
Another consequence of this step is that extreme care must be taken to avoid editing out the things that made OD&D a special game to begin with and these are the same things that by and large are missing from all later versions of D&D.
Another pitfall is that there are iconic monsters and other things that were present in OD&D that are not present in the SRD. This means that you cannot put in a Beholder since it is not in the SRD. That means if you want a Beholder you have to call it something else and have a description that is somewhat different. In addition, you have another decision to make - are you using some or all of the material from one or more supplements?
Then there are Balrogs, Hobbits and Ents. All were present in the first few printings of OD&D, but were pulled from later printings due to legal threats. In addition, there are tables that use Banths, Tharks and other creatures from the John Carter of Mars (Barsoom) books. How do you handle these?
Once you have done all that you can do and have written the best possible Retro-Clone that you could write, you will be criticized for every deviation from the original rules even though you had to create your own presentation of the rules to be completely legal and to comply with the OGL.
One of course is getting legal advice from an experienced copyright attorney to help them stay within the letter of the law.
A second is to go through the SRD and delete everything that is not present at all in OD&D.
A third step is take all the remaining material that is in OD&D in some form and simplify that information into your own words, but as close to OD&D as you can legally go. This is a time consuming and difficult step and is fraught with some peril in more than one way. OD&D is intentionally vague in some areas and has things that can be interpreted in more than one way. Unfortunately when writing your clone those passages are some of the most difficult to work with since you cannot just quote them. So do you use your preferred interpretation or list more than one interpretation or do you attempt to recreate the original indeterminacy with a different wording.
Another consequence of this step is that extreme care must be taken to avoid editing out the things that made OD&D a special game to begin with and these are the same things that by and large are missing from all later versions of D&D.
Another pitfall is that there are iconic monsters and other things that were present in OD&D that are not present in the SRD. This means that you cannot put in a Beholder since it is not in the SRD. That means if you want a Beholder you have to call it something else and have a description that is somewhat different. In addition, you have another decision to make - are you using some or all of the material from one or more supplements?
Then there are Balrogs, Hobbits and Ents. All were present in the first few printings of OD&D, but were pulled from later printings due to legal threats. In addition, there are tables that use Banths, Tharks and other creatures from the John Carter of Mars (Barsoom) books. How do you handle these?
Once you have done all that you can do and have written the best possible Retro-Clone that you could write, you will be criticized for every deviation from the original rules even though you had to create your own presentation of the rules to be completely legal and to comply with the OGL.
Reviews of Retro-Clones of OD&D Coming Soon!
Just to give my readers a heads up of what to expect in the near future!
I am going to be posting reviews of clones of OD&D. I know most of them have been out for quite some time; however, I am going to do a review of several and then give you my take on which ones I like the best and why.
The ones that I am going to review are:
Swords & Wizardy - Whitebox edition
Swords & Wizardy - Core
Delving Deeper
Grey Matter
Iron Falcon
Seven Voyages of Zylarthen
Full Metal Plate Mail
There are others of course; however, I believe that these are a good place to start.
I am going to be posting reviews of clones of OD&D. I know most of them have been out for quite some time; however, I am going to do a review of several and then give you my take on which ones I like the best and why.
The ones that I am going to review are:
Swords & Wizardy - Whitebox edition
Swords & Wizardy - Core
Delving Deeper
Grey Matter
Iron Falcon
Seven Voyages of Zylarthen
Full Metal Plate Mail
There are others of course; however, I believe that these are a good place to start.
Wednesday, August 12, 2015
James M. Ward, creator of Metamorphosis Alpha
James M. Ward, creator of Metamorphosis Alpha, TSR Alumni, and a great
guy has been in the hospital for about a month now due to complications
from diabetes. They've already removed part of his foot and going to
have more procedures done and he is hoping to avoid amputation. My wife
has diabetes and has already had issues with her feet and eyes, so I
really feel for Jim.
Jim is a freelancer and the medical bills are mounting, since a lot is not covered by insurance. Please visit his GoFundMe and help him out.
Go Fund Me for Jim Wards Medical Bills
Some of you may be interested in a 40th anniversary expansion for the world's first sci-fi RPG!
Metamorphosis Alpha: Epsilon City - Kickstarter Goodman Games
Jim is a freelancer and the medical bills are mounting, since a lot is not covered by insurance. Please visit his GoFundMe and help him out.
Go Fund Me for Jim Wards Medical Bills
Some of you may be interested in a 40th anniversary expansion for the world's first sci-fi RPG!
Metamorphosis Alpha: Epsilon City - Kickstarter Goodman Games
Monday, July 27, 2015
Review of a Greyhawk-Holmes Basic D&D based Adventure by R.C. Pinnell
Swamp Women
by R.C. Pinnell
For Novice to Intermediate Levels
3rd through 6th Levels
6-9 players
Click on the image to see a larger image!
Click on the image to see a larger image!
I was lucky enough to get a copy of this (Swamp Women) from Mr Pinnell to take a look at and offer feedback to him and now I am writing my review of the adventure having read all the way through it many times. I have reffed and played OD&D since the early fall of 1975. I will warn you that this is the first review I have attempted and I am trying to not give too much away so I may be light on the details some of you might like to see.
This scenario is intended to be run using the Holmes Basic D&D rules with the OD&D Greyhawk supplement. However, author also gives suggestions as to how to run the game under other Classic D&D rule-sets or their clones. Additional rules info that may be needed, depending on the rule-set you choose to use are found in the Appendices. Recommendations for the makeup of the adventuring party are also provided.
The background given is quite intriguing pitting a riverside community and its economic future against a matriarchal tribal society. A band of tribeswomen are on a religious vision quest unbeknownst to the villagers and that is what is creating the economic woes of the community.
A bit a getting started advice is given and then a bit more background of the community of Cragmore along with brief details of three major NPCs. Then a section of Gossip and Rumors is provided which is in my opinion, both highly entertaining and highly useful for the DM to provide the players with a lot of information which may or may not be entirely true. Again some very useful advice is given to the DM in how to use this information.
While there is a "plot" and "mission" there is room for a number of encounters within the map that are unrelated to either, which in my mind is a bonus.The various areas are well-described and their are excellent maps provided (and it would be easy to extend the main map if desired. The map is well indexed and several random encounter tables are provided. DMing advice is given in a number of location and in my mind is good sound advice.
I would suggest that a DM using this adventure should use some 3 x 5 note cards to make some salient notes for quick access during the game. In my opinion, this would be a very good adventure for a less experienced DM to run since a lot of general how to advice is given on using the adventure and that it lends itself to different levels of complexity in the ways it can be played. While it is designed for a lot of roleplaying, it can be run in other styles. If you are a starting a campaign and are going to combine homebrew with materials from other people, this would be a good way to get things started.
Wednesday, July 22, 2015
To all who read this blog, your assistance is requested especially if
To all who read this blog, your assistance is requested especially if you live outside the USA or your first language is not English. I am getting ready to update a lot of my Old School Gaming Resource Links, which includes blogs, OSR games and other games, resource sites, publishers, fan magazines, and much more. I am interested in including links in as many languages as possible. Please post links to all of these kinds of things in the format of :
Name of the blog/game/site/etc. following by the link
Examples:
Delving Deeper http://forum.immersiveink.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=113
Aventuras en la Marca del Este http://www.lamarcadeleste.com/
I would like to extend all of my lists, including, but not limited to:
Ye Olde School List of Retro Games & Clones, Retro Clones, and What Have You
Ye Olde School Fan Magazines
Ye Olde School Blogs
Ye Olde School Forum List
Ye Olde School Resource Sites
To include the maximum possible number of products both free and for sale, in all possible languages so that it theese lists will be of the maximum possible use to the maximum number of people.
If you would like to write a brief and concise informative statement about each item that would also be good. And it would be great if you identify the language you are posting in.
My deepest appreciation to anyone and everyone who contributes.
Name of the blog/game/site/etc. following by the link
Examples:
Delving Deeper http://forum.immersiveink.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=113
Aventuras en la Marca del Este http://www.lamarcadeleste.com/
I would like to extend all of my lists, including, but not limited to:
Ye Olde School List of Retro Games & Clones, Retro Clones, and What Have You
Ye Olde School Fan Magazines
Ye Olde School Blogs
Ye Olde School Forum List
Ye Olde School Resource Sites
To include the maximum possible number of products both free and for sale, in all possible languages so that it theese lists will be of the maximum possible use to the maximum number of people.
If you would like to write a brief and concise informative statement about each item that would also be good. And it would be great if you identify the language you are posting in.
My deepest appreciation to anyone and everyone who contributes.
Wednesday, July 15, 2015
OD&D - Old Forgotten English Words - 018
Continuing the list of olde archaic words for your enjoyment and enlightenment:
Bobbery-pack - A pack of hounds of different breeds, or oftener of no breed at all, wherewith young officers hunt jackals or the like; presumably so called from the noise and disturbance (known as a bobbery) that such a pack are apt to raise.
May-dew - The dew collected off the grass with sponges, used as a cosmetic. As late as the 1930's Scottish girls gathered May-dew at dawn during the month of May and partook of its beautifying virtues.
Joggs - On the outside of the church, strongly fixed to the wall, are the joggs. These were made use of, when the weekly market and the annual fair stood, to confine and punish those who had broken the peace, or used too much freedom with the property of others. The stocks were used for the feet and the joggs for the neck of the offender, in which he was confined at least during the time of the fair.
Album nigrum - The excrement of mice and rats, formerly used both externally and internally as a remedy, but now very properly abandoned.
Fence-month - The month during which, in England, hunting in any forest is prohibited. A month in which it is unlawful to hunt in the forest because in that month the female deers fawn; it begins fifteen days before Midsummer.
Bobbery-pack - A pack of hounds of different breeds, or oftener of no breed at all, wherewith young officers hunt jackals or the like; presumably so called from the noise and disturbance (known as a bobbery) that such a pack are apt to raise.
May-dew - The dew collected off the grass with sponges, used as a cosmetic. As late as the 1930's Scottish girls gathered May-dew at dawn during the month of May and partook of its beautifying virtues.
Joggs - On the outside of the church, strongly fixed to the wall, are the joggs. These were made use of, when the weekly market and the annual fair stood, to confine and punish those who had broken the peace, or used too much freedom with the property of others. The stocks were used for the feet and the joggs for the neck of the offender, in which he was confined at least during the time of the fair.
Album nigrum - The excrement of mice and rats, formerly used both externally and internally as a remedy, but now very properly abandoned.
Fence-month - The month during which, in England, hunting in any forest is prohibited. A month in which it is unlawful to hunt in the forest because in that month the female deers fawn; it begins fifteen days before Midsummer.
OD&D - Old Forgotten English Words - 017
Continuing the list of olde archaic words for your enjoyment and enlightenment:
Snollygoster - A shrewd, unprincipled person, particularly a politician.
Twitter-light - formerly used instead of twilight.
bedchamber - meaning bedroom
Zafty- A person very easily imposed upon or taken advantage of.
Interlard - To put lard or fat between layers of meat. Metaphorically, to mix what is the solid part of the discourse with fulsome and irrelevant matter. Thus we say, "to interlard with oaths, compliments," etc.
Hemicrania lunatica - Pain in the head arising from changes in the moon.
Fulhams - Loaded dice are called high- and lowmen, or high and low fulhams, by Ben Jonson and other writers of his time, either because they were made at Fulham [between Kensington and the Thames, in London], or from that place being the resort of sharpers.
Snollygoster - A shrewd, unprincipled person, particularly a politician.
Twitter-light - formerly used instead of twilight.
bedchamber - meaning bedroom
Zafty- A person very easily imposed upon or taken advantage of.
Interlard - To put lard or fat between layers of meat. Metaphorically, to mix what is the solid part of the discourse with fulsome and irrelevant matter. Thus we say, "to interlard with oaths, compliments," etc.
Hemicrania lunatica - Pain in the head arising from changes in the moon.
Fulhams - Loaded dice are called high- and lowmen, or high and low fulhams, by Ben Jonson and other writers of his time, either because they were made at Fulham [between Kensington and the Thames, in London], or from that place being the resort of sharpers.
Tuesday, June 30, 2015
Friday, May 22, 2015
OD&D - Old Forgotten English Words - 016
Continuing the list of olde archaic words for your enjoyment and enlightenment:
Groaning-cheese - Cheese provided on the occasion of child-birth. It was the practice to cut the groaning-cheese in the middle, and by degrees to form it into a large kind of ring, through which the child was passed on the day of christening.
Rat-rhyme - To repeat from memory without attaching any meaning to the words; anything repeated by rote. The fanciful idea that rats where commonly rhymed to death in Ireland arose probably from some metrical charm or incantation used there for that purpose.
Snapper-back - in foot-ball, a center rusher . . . Neither the snapper-back nor his opponent can take the ball out with the hand until it touches a third man.
Ruckle - A loose heap or pile; figuratively, a ruckle of bones, a very lean person.
Fowerty-frappers - Fireworks of any kind.
Simmiting - An inclination or fondness for a person of the opposite sex; related to simmity, to look after admiringly, to pay attention to.
Groaning-cheese - Cheese provided on the occasion of child-birth. It was the practice to cut the groaning-cheese in the middle, and by degrees to form it into a large kind of ring, through which the child was passed on the day of christening.
Rat-rhyme - To repeat from memory without attaching any meaning to the words; anything repeated by rote. The fanciful idea that rats where commonly rhymed to death in Ireland arose probably from some metrical charm or incantation used there for that purpose.
Snapper-back - in foot-ball, a center rusher . . . Neither the snapper-back nor his opponent can take the ball out with the hand until it touches a third man.
Ruckle - A loose heap or pile; figuratively, a ruckle of bones, a very lean person.
Fowerty-frappers - Fireworks of any kind.
Simmiting - An inclination or fondness for a person of the opposite sex; related to simmity, to look after admiringly, to pay attention to.
OD&D - Old Forgotten English Words - 015
Continuing the list of olde archaic words for your enjoyment and enlightenment:
Cuckoo-ale - Ale drunk out of doors to welcome the cuckoo's return. The cuckoo was looked upon as the embodiment of spring in early times, and the weather was supposed to change as soon as it appeared.
Ragrowtering - Playing at romps, and thereby rumpling, roughening and tearing the clothes to rags, or playing the rogue in a wanton frolic; from ragery and rout, tumultus. Risking the damage of clothes by rude or rough personal handling in play.
Man of straw - The old clothes of a man, stuffed with straw; hence, an imaginary person, a person of little consequence put forward to deceive.
Tricked up and made fine; a metaphor taken from a horse's hounces, which is part of the furniture of a cart-horse which lies spread up on his collar.
Apple-john - An apple, so called from its being at maturity about St. John's Day, May 6 . . . Sometimes called the Apples of King John which, if correct, would militate against the notion about St. John's Day. . . In the United States there is a drink called apple-jack, which is apple or cider brandy.
Cuckoo-ale - Ale drunk out of doors to welcome the cuckoo's return. The cuckoo was looked upon as the embodiment of spring in early times, and the weather was supposed to change as soon as it appeared.
Ragrowtering - Playing at romps, and thereby rumpling, roughening and tearing the clothes to rags, or playing the rogue in a wanton frolic; from ragery and rout, tumultus. Risking the damage of clothes by rude or rough personal handling in play.
Man of straw - The old clothes of a man, stuffed with straw; hence, an imaginary person, a person of little consequence put forward to deceive.
Tricked up and made fine; a metaphor taken from a horse's hounces, which is part of the furniture of a cart-horse which lies spread up on his collar.
Apple-john - An apple, so called from its being at maturity about St. John's Day, May 6 . . . Sometimes called the Apples of King John which, if correct, would militate against the notion about St. John's Day. . . In the United States there is a drink called apple-jack, which is apple or cider brandy.
OD&D - The OSR and Innovation - A Few Thoughts
I have recently read Where Should the Innovation in the OSR Be - Rules or Settings? over at Tenkar's Tavern; Settings or Rules or Both and Why Not, Another Giveaway over at Gothridge Manor; and Innovation: settings, rules, or... what? over at Greyhawk Grognard and see also +Michael S, +Tim Shorts, +Joseph Bloch, and +James Spahn.
So I decided to weigh in with a few comments of my own.
Now before I comment I would like to establish exactly where I am coming from on this. As of this coming fall I will have been playing and reffing OD&D for 40 years. I don't consider myself to be part of the OSR, since for me there is nothing to revive, since I never left old school gaming and OD&D to begin with. For me it is as fresh and new as when I started. I have not played any of the retro-clones (see my list of those products Ye Olde School List of Retro Games & Clones, Retro Clones, and What Have You!) but I have copies of the free ones and have looked through them for ideas. The ones that are for sale I am curious about, but not enough to spend money on them yet. I don't have any problem with anyone making money on their labor at all. But when it comes to new rulesets based on OD&D or Classic D&D, I want to look before I buy. That is just me, now if I like your ruleset - i.e. I find it readable and with no deal breakers then I might be enticed to purchase a product based on your ruleset. As I said, I am all about promoting OD&D - see The Ruins of Murkhill - True OD&D - Original Dungeons & Dragons Campaign Worlds for this blog and OD&D - Campaigns and House Rules Discussion for my forum.
Now on to my comments concerning the OSR and Innovation. The above noted essays on the noted blogs mentioned Empire of the Petal Throne, Blackmoor, Spears of the Dawn, Arrows of Indra, White Star, Carcosa and others.
Now the question of where should the innovation be Rules or Settings is to me fairly simple. IMO the main efforts for innovation should be going into settings, new spells and new monsters. Let me elaborate on this a bit, when it comes to new rules/house rules/rule sets I say keep them coming, write all of the clones, retro clones, retro games you want and I will happily use any new rule that looks like fun and if it does enhance fun I will keep it.
However, when it comes to settings and to me this does mean new spells and new monsters, I was surprised that no one mentioned The Arduin Grimoire (The Arduin Trilogy). Dave Hargrave started Arduin as an OD&D campaign and then when he published he was forced by TSR to change it from what was essentially an unofficial OD&D supplement into its own game. It was a extraordinary setting with many new spells and new monsters and it had all kinds of innovations many of which were brought out 20-25+ years later by others as new things, but they weren't new at all. So I say aspire to be the next "Arduin", be truly innovative in a way that goes way beyond just a new setting or a new spell or a new monsters, create something that really breaks the mold. Those are things worth buying!
But here is the thing for me, I am not going to use your setting the way you write it, I am going to mine it for ideas to mix with my own ideas and then use it IMC the same way I steal rules and use them IMC.
Over on my forum, I am encouraging people to post their campaign worlds and we have several that we have started and along with that, information about campaigns and game play. One fellow plays on a Jupiter sized world and it is a generation game that has been running for over 40 years and he is starting to post about the current characters that are 7 and a half real world years into circumnavigating the globe. To me that is something I want to read about and I hope it runs hundreds if not thousands of posts. Others are brand new worlds, some just beginning and I want to see where they go. I want to see things that stir me up and make me care.
I suppose that is really what I want from the OSR - not just your rules, settings, monsters and spells - I want to hear about your campaign and see your maps - I want to know what weird things your players did and the strange things they found when they explored your world. I want to see and read about things that I would not think of. I am not a deep thinker like some of the bloggers are, so just my 2 coppers.
So I decided to weigh in with a few comments of my own.
Now before I comment I would like to establish exactly where I am coming from on this. As of this coming fall I will have been playing and reffing OD&D for 40 years. I don't consider myself to be part of the OSR, since for me there is nothing to revive, since I never left old school gaming and OD&D to begin with. For me it is as fresh and new as when I started. I have not played any of the retro-clones (see my list of those products Ye Olde School List of Retro Games & Clones, Retro Clones, and What Have You!) but I have copies of the free ones and have looked through them for ideas. The ones that are for sale I am curious about, but not enough to spend money on them yet. I don't have any problem with anyone making money on their labor at all. But when it comes to new rulesets based on OD&D or Classic D&D, I want to look before I buy. That is just me, now if I like your ruleset - i.e. I find it readable and with no deal breakers then I might be enticed to purchase a product based on your ruleset. As I said, I am all about promoting OD&D - see The Ruins of Murkhill - True OD&D - Original Dungeons & Dragons Campaign Worlds for this blog and OD&D - Campaigns and House Rules Discussion for my forum.
Now on to my comments concerning the OSR and Innovation. The above noted essays on the noted blogs mentioned Empire of the Petal Throne, Blackmoor, Spears of the Dawn, Arrows of Indra, White Star, Carcosa and others.
Now the question of where should the innovation be Rules or Settings is to me fairly simple. IMO the main efforts for innovation should be going into settings, new spells and new monsters. Let me elaborate on this a bit, when it comes to new rules/house rules/rule sets I say keep them coming, write all of the clones, retro clones, retro games you want and I will happily use any new rule that looks like fun and if it does enhance fun I will keep it.
However, when it comes to settings and to me this does mean new spells and new monsters, I was surprised that no one mentioned The Arduin Grimoire (The Arduin Trilogy). Dave Hargrave started Arduin as an OD&D campaign and then when he published he was forced by TSR to change it from what was essentially an unofficial OD&D supplement into its own game. It was a extraordinary setting with many new spells and new monsters and it had all kinds of innovations many of which were brought out 20-25+ years later by others as new things, but they weren't new at all. So I say aspire to be the next "Arduin", be truly innovative in a way that goes way beyond just a new setting or a new spell or a new monsters, create something that really breaks the mold. Those are things worth buying!
But here is the thing for me, I am not going to use your setting the way you write it, I am going to mine it for ideas to mix with my own ideas and then use it IMC the same way I steal rules and use them IMC.
Over on my forum, I am encouraging people to post their campaign worlds and we have several that we have started and along with that, information about campaigns and game play. One fellow plays on a Jupiter sized world and it is a generation game that has been running for over 40 years and he is starting to post about the current characters that are 7 and a half real world years into circumnavigating the globe. To me that is something I want to read about and I hope it runs hundreds if not thousands of posts. Others are brand new worlds, some just beginning and I want to see where they go. I want to see things that stir me up and make me care.
I suppose that is really what I want from the OSR - not just your rules, settings, monsters and spells - I want to hear about your campaign and see your maps - I want to know what weird things your players did and the strange things they found when they explored your world. I want to see and read about things that I would not think of. I am not a deep thinker like some of the bloggers are, so just my 2 coppers.
Thursday, May 21, 2015
OD&D - Old Forgotten English Words - 014
Continuing the list of olde archaic words for your enjoyment and enlightenment:
Settlers' matches - A name occasionally applied to the long pendulous strips of bark which hang from the Eucalyptus and other trees during decortication, and which, becoming exceedingly dry, are readily ignited and used as kindling wood.
Octogamie - Marrying eight times. From Latin ecto, and Old French gamie (marriage).
Purse Proud - Haughty on account of wealth.
Extranean - An outsider, stranger; one not belonging to a household . . . in the grammar school at Aberdeen, the extranean was one who had not gone through the regular curriculum from the lowest to the highest classes, but had come from other schools for the last quarter in order to get a final drill or finishing touch before going to compete for the university bursaries or scholarships.
Seeksorrow - One who contrives to give himself vexation.
Chair-days - A time of repose; the evening of life.
Crump - One that helps solicitors to affidavit- men and overseers . . . who, for a small sum will be bound or swear for anybody, on that occasion putting on good cloaths to make a good appearance, that bail may be accepted.
Settlers' matches - A name occasionally applied to the long pendulous strips of bark which hang from the Eucalyptus and other trees during decortication, and which, becoming exceedingly dry, are readily ignited and used as kindling wood.
Octogamie - Marrying eight times. From Latin ecto, and Old French gamie (marriage).
Purse Proud - Haughty on account of wealth.
Extranean - An outsider, stranger; one not belonging to a household . . . in the grammar school at Aberdeen, the extranean was one who had not gone through the regular curriculum from the lowest to the highest classes, but had come from other schools for the last quarter in order to get a final drill or finishing touch before going to compete for the university bursaries or scholarships.
Seeksorrow - One who contrives to give himself vexation.
Chair-days - A time of repose; the evening of life.
Crump - One that helps solicitors to affidavit- men and overseers . . . who, for a small sum will be bound or swear for anybody, on that occasion putting on good cloaths to make a good appearance, that bail may be accepted.
OD&D - Old Forgotten English Words - 013
Continuing the list of olde archaic words for your enjoyment and enlightenment:
Snickle - A snare for birds, constructed of horsehair.
Invalid's table - At Yale college in former times, a table at which those who were not in health could obtain more nutritious food than was supplied at the common board.
Queer rooster - An informer that pretends to be sleeping, and thereby overhears the conversations of thieves in night cellars.
Fangast - A marriageable maid.
Quill-driver - A scrivener, a clerk, satirical phrase similar to "steel bar driver," a tailor.
Cramp-rings - Ring(s) made out of old coffin-lead , and worn as a preservative against cramp.
Aroint - A word of aversion, to a witch or infernal spirit, of which the etymology is uncertain . . . It occurs in Shakespeare's Macbeth, "Aroint thee, witch, the rump-fed ronyon cries"
Snickle - A snare for birds, constructed of horsehair.
Invalid's table - At Yale college in former times, a table at which those who were not in health could obtain more nutritious food than was supplied at the common board.
Queer rooster - An informer that pretends to be sleeping, and thereby overhears the conversations of thieves in night cellars.
Fangast - A marriageable maid.
Quill-driver - A scrivener, a clerk, satirical phrase similar to "steel bar driver," a tailor.
Cramp-rings - Ring(s) made out of old coffin-lead , and worn as a preservative against cramp.
Aroint - A word of aversion, to a witch or infernal spirit, of which the etymology is uncertain . . . It occurs in Shakespeare's Macbeth, "Aroint thee, witch, the rump-fed ronyon cries"
OD&D - Old Forgotten English Words - 012
Continuing the list of olde archaic words for your enjoyment and enlightenment:
Weeping-ripe - Ready to weep; ripe for weeping. A notion long prevailed in this country that it augured ill for a matrimonial alliance if the bride did not weep profusely at the wedding. As no witch could shed more than three tears , and those from her left eye only, a copious flood of tears gave assurance to the husband that the lady had not plighted her troth to Satan, and was no witch.
Shinnock - The game of shinny . . . resembling hockey, the and club used for the game.
Bog-oranges - Potatoes. A phrase perhaps derived from the term "Irish fruit, " which by some strange peculiarity has been applied to potatoes, for even the most ignorant Cockney could hardly believe that potatoes grow in a bog.
Gabriel's hounds - These phantom hounds, jet black and breathing flames . . . frequent bleak and dreary moors on tempestuous nights, and woe betide the unlucky wretch who chances to cross their path.
Weeping-ripe - Ready to weep; ripe for weeping. A notion long prevailed in this country that it augured ill for a matrimonial alliance if the bride did not weep profusely at the wedding. As no witch could shed more than three tears , and those from her left eye only, a copious flood of tears gave assurance to the husband that the lady had not plighted her troth to Satan, and was no witch.
Shinnock - The game of shinny . . . resembling hockey, the and club used for the game.
Bog-oranges - Potatoes. A phrase perhaps derived from the term "Irish fruit, " which by some strange peculiarity has been applied to potatoes, for even the most ignorant Cockney could hardly believe that potatoes grow in a bog.
Gabriel's hounds - These phantom hounds, jet black and breathing flames . . . frequent bleak and dreary moors on tempestuous nights, and woe betide the unlucky wretch who chances to cross their path.
OD&D - Old Forgotten English Words - 011
Continuing the list of olde archaic words for your enjoyment and enlightenment:
Riding the hatch - In the district about the Land's End, a custom once prevailed known as riding the hatch. Persons suspected of immorality were mounted on the half-door (a Dutch door), which was then violently rocked until they fell off. If the accused fell into the house, he was judged to be innocent; if into the street, guilty.
Keak - A distortion or injury of the spine that causes deformity. It seems to have some affinity with the Cheshire word kench . . . "a twist or wrench, a strain or sprain." Our term, however, is never used but for a wrench in the spine.
Curglaff - the shock felt in bathing when one first plunges into the cold water; hence curgloff, panic struck.
Box harry - To live in a poor manner, or on credit. To go without food; to make a poor or coarse meal; to rough it; to take things as they are . . . Hence Boxharry-week, the blank week between pay-weeks when the workmen lived on credit or starved.
The phrase "to box Harry" probably means to box or fight, the devil.
Riding the hatch - In the district about the Land's End, a custom once prevailed known as riding the hatch. Persons suspected of immorality were mounted on the half-door (a Dutch door), which was then violently rocked until they fell off. If the accused fell into the house, he was judged to be innocent; if into the street, guilty.
Keak - A distortion or injury of the spine that causes deformity. It seems to have some affinity with the Cheshire word kench . . . "a twist or wrench, a strain or sprain." Our term, however, is never used but for a wrench in the spine.
Curglaff - the shock felt in bathing when one first plunges into the cold water; hence curgloff, panic struck.
Box harry - To live in a poor manner, or on credit. To go without food; to make a poor or coarse meal; to rough it; to take things as they are . . . Hence Boxharry-week, the blank week between pay-weeks when the workmen lived on credit or starved.
The phrase "to box Harry" probably means to box or fight, the devil.
OD&D - Old Forgotten English Words - 010
Continuing the list of olde archaic words for your enjoyment and enlightenment:
Man-browed - Having hair growing between the eyebrows. Here is is deemed unlucky to meet a person thus marked, especially if the first one meets in the morning. Elsewhere, it is a favourable omen. The term, I suppose, has been primarily applied to a woman, as by this exuberance indicating something of a masculine character, having brows like a man.
Almner - An officer of a king or prince's house whose function is carefully to collect the fragments of meat and victuals and distribute them . . . and likewise to receive and faithfully distribute *cast horses, robes, money and other things given in alms. He ought also to excite the king with often admonitions, especially on festival days, to be bountiful in giving alms, and to beseech that his rich robes may not be given to parasites, maskers and stage-players.
*Cast Horses - A horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor reposition himself to roll the other way. A horse can be injured from this and have to be put down.
Water-quake - A disturbance of water caused by volcanic action.
Man-browed - Having hair growing between the eyebrows. Here is is deemed unlucky to meet a person thus marked, especially if the first one meets in the morning. Elsewhere, it is a favourable omen. The term, I suppose, has been primarily applied to a woman, as by this exuberance indicating something of a masculine character, having brows like a man.
Almner - An officer of a king or prince's house whose function is carefully to collect the fragments of meat and victuals and distribute them . . . and likewise to receive and faithfully distribute *cast horses, robes, money and other things given in alms. He ought also to excite the king with often admonitions, especially on festival days, to be bountiful in giving alms, and to beseech that his rich robes may not be given to parasites, maskers and stage-players.
*Cast Horses - A horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor reposition himself to roll the other way. A horse can be injured from this and have to be put down.
Water-quake - A disturbance of water caused by volcanic action.
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.CP3EVp8Q.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.CP3EVp8Q.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.CP3EVp8Q.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.CP3EVp8Q.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.CP3EVp8Q.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.CP3EVp8Q.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.CP3EVp8Q.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.CP3EVp8Q.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
A
horse can get stuck - or cast - in his stall. A horse is said to be
cast when he has lain down or rolled and managed to position himself
with his legs so close to the wall that he can neither get up nor
reposition himself to roll the other way. - See more at:
http://www.equisearch.com/article/help-your-cast-horse-your-horses-stall#sthash.oD9SwJPy.dpuf
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